see you back here tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huck lee. [ applause ] >> mike: thank you for coming today and welcome to huckabee. from the fox news studios in new york city. tonight, part ii of my exclusive interview with tony blair. this is his first following his grueling appearance before the commission. and the former british prime minister talks about dealing with a possible nuclear threat from iran. importance of faith and his ability to lead, and he talks about why he likes america so very much. also, a few weeks ago, gail
haggard told us why she stayed with her husband, former evangelical leader ted after he strayed with a male prostitutes and bought illegal drugs. gail and her husband ted will be joining us tonight. we will be talking to them about the rest of the story. and "american idol" sensation catherine mcphee is here to perform her latest hit. plus, an amazing story of twin brothers who will simultaneously work on the same piece of canvas and create a masterpiece. when they finish, you are going to have an opportunity to own this incredible piece of art. that's our show for tonight. [ applause ] >> mike: amber is the obama girl. now, she was made famous from self-styled sensation video that depicted her mad crush on then presidential candidate barack obama. after his first year in office, she made a new splash by publicly discussing her
disappointment in his presidency. she was a guest on this show a couple of weeks ago. but her appearance sparked a very strong and mostly critical reaction. much of the heat was directed at me for what the viewers perceived as an abandonment of my christian principles. look, i don't hide the fact that i am a jesus person. a true believer in him. this show is always going to treat faith in a positive and encouraging way but it's not a religious show, nor is the fox news channel a religious network. now, our viewers do tend to be typical of most america, which means they believe in god, traditional moral values, and they love their families and country. miss et jerry is a very intelligent, kurt tus, and thoughtful person who brilliantly navigated herself from being a young obscure aspiring entertainer by-to-a national celebrity by other own clever creativity. some thought she was promoting
promiscuity. not at all. she is about political satire. her performance as the obama girl was frankly quite tame. and i was pleasantly surprised to find her a highly informed and very articulate young person. i honestly wish that all voters were so knowledgeable of the issues. now, to those who felt that her brief appearance on her show signalled my abandoning jesus, i would strongly beg to differ. some of the emails forcefully stated that jesus wouldn't have anything to do with obama girl. i guess because of her song or maybe her attire. well, i must have read a different version of the new testament because jesus was all about focusing on the very people that the religious people rejected. whether it was a ner do well tax collector zacchaeus. a woman at the well who was caught in adultery. a woman at the well. or even social outcasts like lepers. jesus said that like a physician he didn't come for the people who were feeling all good about
themselves but for the sick. he didn't come for the righteous, but for the sinners. and, by the way, amber ed jerry did not come across at all like some wild child. frankly, i wish all people her age were as polite, gracious, and well-informed as she is. and, for me, being christian doesn't mean that i isolate myself from other people. it means that i know that i, too, am a sinner and so i don't mind associating with people who are different than me. i figure if jesus can love and forgive me, he must love everyone. and if he loves anybody, the least i can do is love them, too. that's my view. [ applause ] and i welcome yours. you can email me at mike huckabee.com. click on the fox news feedback section, i would love to hear from you. well, i just returned from nine days in israel. and i had the opportunity to visit with leaders such as prime minister benjamin netanyahu, former british prime minister tony blair. and israeli president shimon paris. i led a group of 160 americans to see this amazing land.
joining me on the trip were music legend pat boone and many others. i wanted to show you just a little of what you might have seen had you been with me. ♪ ♪ >> the controversial fence that separates the palestinians from the israelis has often been seen as a way of dividing the country. but, in fact, the thousand israelis that were killed by terrorists in a short period of time has ended.
♪ ♪ ain't that a shame ♪ dew fell like rain ♪ ain't that a shame? ♪ the blame ♪ ♪ miking my well, i don't know if you caught that or not, but the music involved pat boone and our own mike tobin who is in the jerusalem bureau of the fox news channel. we had a blast at the -- at the said del hotel. i'm not sure they had quite a
night like that. we had pat boone singing exodus. it was quite a wonderful trip. you know, twins share a special life-long bond. we always hear stories about one twin sensing when the other one is in trouble. or maybe feeling pain when the other one is hurt. even if they are miles or time zones apart. tonight, we are joined by a set of twin brothers who are artists and their ability to sense the other's thoughts and emotions has led to the creation of some unique and very valuable artwork. please welcome jerry and terry lynn. jerry and terry, good to have you guys here. [ applause ] i have seen your paintings and am mesmerized by the ability that you approach a canvas, not really having talked about what you are going to do and you end up painting this magnificent piece of work. tear, tell me, what is the secret? is it that you have this sixth sense with each other? >> we are from memphis. we are inspired by our family, the harris of the mid south. and you will of that just kind of flows into our artwork.
so it's quite natural process. >> mike: now, what you are going to do today is you are going to paint during the show. >> exactly. >> mike: a painting. and at the end of the show, our audience and everyone at home is going to be able to see the work you have done. do you have a theme that you are going to think about? >> basically, our work is -- it kind of embodies the american spirit. so i think that we're going to kind of let that spirit kind of flow into this particular painting. >> mike: this is amazing. never before have we attempted to try to put two people on the screen and have them paint but it's going to be exciting. and you, by the way, will have a chance to own the painting that they do today. all right. terry and jerry, you guys go ahead and get started. and we're going to check in with their progress throughout the show and we'll reveal the final product at the end. and the painting that they do today is going to be placed on ebay. the proceeds will go 100% to our wanna play fund that will purchase musical instruments for
students. as you saw in my piece of the pour of israel, i had the chance to visit with british prime minister tony blair who spends a good portion of his time these days in jerusalem as a special middle east on i have. come up my visit with tony blair including his solution on how to deal with iran and its development of nuclear power. stay with us. we'll be right back. [ applause ] fresh and white. try mine. it whitens and i bet your breath will still feel fresh after the movie. [ female announcer ] new crest extra white plus scope outlast. for a fresh breath feeling that lasts up to 5 times longer. still fresh? yip. i want to be mad but it's tough with that smile. [ female announcer ] crest extra white plus scope outlast.
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strength. and if we make it clear to them and clear to them in terms of the absolutely unambiguous and unequivocal that they will not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons capability and we will do of what it takes to stop them, then i think we will stop them. the single biggest danger in this situation is that they misread our will will. personally i believe the will is there to stop them. and the thing that most worries a lot of the arab countries in this neighborhood is precisely a nuclear armed iran and one of the reasons and it's important to our people, american, britain, and our people understand this. one of the reasons it's important to stop iran from acquiring that capability, it would dramatically alter the power relationships within this region. and it's not a risk that we should take or can responsibly take. >> mike: let's talk about the role you are now playing. you spend a good teal deal of your time in the middle east as the middle east envoy from the
quartet to work with the very tense situation between the israelis and palestinians. progress? seeing any? >> yeah, there is progress. we can solve this, provided we understand two very basic principles. one is that the israelis cannot have a palestinianian -- palestinian state in this small strip of land unless they understand it's going to be securely governed. and the second thing for the palestinians is that we cannot expect them to take the steps to get themselves sorted out unless they have the guarantee that if they do this they will have the dignity and justice of statehood. it is possible to do it. here in this room yesterday i met representatives of tourist industry. israeli and palestinians sitting there together, getting along extremely well. talking about the enormous potential of the holy land and agreeing out of that that what we would do is mount a major
promotion campaign for the holy land. israel and palestine together. and i went a couple of days ago, fascinated by this to a little place called sebastian i can't in the palestinian territory. this is a place where there is greek and roman ruins going back to even before greek and roman times and there is a church, which is the church of john the baptist, actually now part of it is a mosque, part is still the old church. and that's where the remains of john the baptist is said to be. so this is a fascinating, fabulous place. you can see her rod's palace there and point to the spot where they think john the baptist is beheaded and all of this in history. nobody there. but think of people from our faith and how they would love to go to these places. >> mike: absolutely. >> what i'm trying to do is to say let's build a state from the bottom up. let's build its economy, let's build its security. yes, carry on with the political
negotiation, but let's realize the potential of this place as not a symbol of conflict between people of different faiths but people's jewish, muslim, christian, living alongside each other in peace and hear money. it can be done. and in this room yesterday you would have seen palestinians and israelis talking together like friends. >> mike: i have been coming here since 1973. it's always been my observation that the palestinian people, the people wanted peace but it seems that the leadership has been the obstacle. particularly when that leadership is influenced by hamas. what is the key to getting the leadership to reflect the will of many of those families who do not want to spend the rest of their lives dodging bullets and bombs? >> it's a very good question. i think presently the -- prime minister i actually do think they want to respond to that on
behalf of palestinians. but i think there is a bigger question going on all over the middle east of which this issue is a part. and, basically, the middle east can go one of two directions. there is a whole generation that's on the move now that are younger, modernizing, they want to be part of the 21st century. they don't actually believe the west are their enemies. they want to live together. there is another part that want to go back. that believe that islam is victimized by the west. that, you know, in this distortion of the proper -- of the proper doctrine of jihad. they want to wage effectively a war not just against us incidentally but against the leadership that want to work with the west. it's being played out all over this region. and i think there are, however, leaders here in this region now who want to embrace the 21st century and that modern vision. we have got to support them and help them. [ applause ] >> mike: well, he is one of
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>> mike: tony blair was the longest serving labor party member to serve as master bedroom of the u.k. holding office for a decade. some of the stresses that come with being in that position are the personal and sometimes vicious attacks from the public and media. i asked mr. blair how he dealt with the hits that he took. >> i think anyone who says that it doesn't affect you, you would have to be a little inhuman. but you do learn to live with it.
n. a way. frankly, there are days when you get up and you decide that the papers may be lying on the kitchen table but you don't look at them. it's also that -- i think the one thing that we should never forget, and i certainly never forget this. i mean, i am very privileged, enormous privilege to be prime minister of a country like britain for 10 years. i lead an exciting life. and now, you know, working in the middle east peace process and with the religious faith foundation and so on, i get up every morning and i feel a sense of purpose. if that's on one side of the scale and that's a big thing, you know, on the other side of the scale, you know, people have to go. >> mike: you mention faith, the tony blair faith foundation is a very important part of what you are a part of now. there was a special moment in 2007, conversion to catholicism.
a powerful experience for you. what were the steps that led to this part of your life becoming a forefront of who tony blair is? >> well, for me, my faith has obviously been the single most important thing in my life throughout. that's the way it is. my conversion to catholicism really came about in part because i had been going -- my wife is a catholic. my children were brought up as catholics. we had been going to church, to mass for 25 years. so, for me, it was a very, you know, it felt very much like coming home. when i'm out here in jerusalem, it's fascinating though because you also see the jewish and the muslim influence very strongly. and the whole purpose of my foundation has been to say it's a modern world, people of different faiths have got to learn to understand and respect each other. and sometimes people say these problems aren't really religious. but for many of the people
involved in those conflicts, they believe it is religious. so, for me, the journey into the catholic church was a very personal one to do for me family but the belief of the power in religious faith and importance in the world is central to my new life. >> mike: i'm sure that you are aware that you are immensely popular in the united states. it's not for so much a particular point of view. but you took a stand with america right after 9/11. people appreciated that. but then there was a new appreciation because even in the face of what really was a change in the labor party, in britain, and to some degree in the democratic party in america, you remained stead fast in your view that the decision to topple the regime of saddam hussein was the right one. and that sense of resolve brought you many admirers. do you sense that? do you get an understanding of
that appreciation that you get on the other side? does that come through? >> well, americans are generous people, you know. and obviously i love being in the states. but the thing -- i mean, look, i don't know about that so much but the thing i think that america should never lose and it's a really interesting thing, because out here, when you are dealing with this israeli-palestinian issue, it's very complicated. and sometimes palestinians say to me what do we need to do? and i say what i find in the u.s. and what i like about the u.s. and what you must never ever lose is that sense of optimism and that sense of the human spirit being about the possibility. not about the risks and the dangers and setbacks and the grievances of life but about the possibility that life holds. and that's the thing that actually distinguishes a nation or a people that's on their way
out from one that's on their way down. you should never lose that. and one of the reasons why i like being in the u.s. and being around americans is that, you know, whatever the issues, and sometimes you guys don't understand us and we don't understand you, but that optimism and that sort of exuberance of the human spirit, it's a great thing. [ applause ] >> mike: my thanks to former prime minister of great britain tony blair. a remarkable and fascinating individual. all right. let's check in with our twin artists terry and jerry lynn. they started working on the same painting at the start of our show. and keep in mind, they're not really talking to each other about what the other is doing. question, whether l. they finish by the end of the show? and what's it going to look like? you better stay tuned to find out and how you can own their painting from today. but, first, we have got a huge response to my interview with gail haggard and her powerful story of forgiveness. coming up, gail is back and this
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afghan soldiers fighting house to house. the insur rent gussing booby traps and explosives trying to halt the advancing nato forces. the u.s. commander in afghanistan has apoll buys apola rocket attack missing it's mark. >> mike: a few weeks ago we were joined by gail haggard whose husband was a prominent pastor and one of the evangelical leaders in the country. that all changed when he admitted to having indiscretions with a male prostitutes. when world came crashing down, she chose to stay with him. i asked gail what would it take for her to leave ted. >> he would have chosen not to stay himself. if he had said that i embrace the struggle that's been going on in me, i'm just going to go that route, gayle. i would have had to have accepted that. >> mike: what was her husband's reaction? let's find out?
joining me now ted and gayle haggard. ted, good to have you. [ applause ] >> mike: gayle, good to have you back. >> thank you, governor. >> mike: we had a tremendous outpouring of response to your appearance, gayle. one of the things that people were, i think, truly amazed by was your sense of forgiveness, your sense of wanting not this to be the end of your marriage, but to continue on. and i asked you that question. what would it take for you to leave? ted, i want to ask you, was there a time when you thought marriage is over? i'm getting out? >> well, i did. because i thought i had become so toxic, it would be best for gayle and the children for me to be gone. so i asked gayle to divorce me. and she said she would not. and the decisions that she and the children made to love me unconditionally, provided an atmosphere within which i could be healed. and so it was amazing because i was making bad decisions and their good decisions opened the
door then for me to make good decisions. so i'm grateful for that. >> mike: you brought your family an enormous level of humiliation and pain and your congregation that you had literally started in your own basement. >> well, and the national national association eevangelicals. i was serving as their president. i had a network of churches that were wonderful. i was serving them. i brought shame to everybody that was associated of with that. actually, i brought shame to everybody who called on the name of christ because i was in many ways the highest elected representative of born-again christians. and, of course, that was very embarrassing. but the foundation of our faith is that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god. and certainly jesus died on the cross for a reason. it's because all of us need that. and so i was embarrassed that i went through that. now that that's over three years old, i am grateful because it opened the door for me to be healed. >> mike: you were at the pentagon call and pentagon call and on a pedestal.
that's evident from the size of the church in colorado. was there a time you wanted to go and slide somewhere and not to be heard from again. >> yes absolutely and others wanted me to. >> mike: that's probably the case. probably some that shed never show your face again. >> never show your face again. one of the incredible things alexander pelosi, who is nancy pelosi's daughter, she told me when i was in that state, she said there is too much resurrection in you to stay hidden. and she says you will complete the story and it will be a resurrection story. and then she did the documentary, the trials of ted haggard. then that opened the door then in me. it started to speak the faith in me and the confidence in me and with gayle's decisions that she describes in her book, and the childrens' decision, then i realized there is going to be life. there is going to be a family. there is going to be a future. and so that was part of the decision-making process that we went through.
and it was certainly worth it. but i think it's really a mistake for any of us to make our most important decisions of our lifetime in our darkest hour. and in our darkest hour, that's the time to stay steady, be consistent. because if gayle would have done what i wanted her to do, divorce me. and if the children would have -- so much shame. >> mike: why did you want her to divorce you? was that the easy way out, if she had divorced you? >> actually, yes. it would have been better for her because i told her, i said, if you stay with me, you will be an abject poverty the rest of your life. you will have shame the rest of your life. and you need to change your name name. just, just my name. i have a son that's named ted haggard. and up until the crisis he was so proud of it after the crisis, it was a point of shame for him. >> mike: gayle, you have certainly -- and i thought your book of was so powerful. why i stayed. we talked about it while you were here before. i guess again, i go back to, you
were the one that kept this major -- marriage together. ted would have pulled the plug and drained the water. what was it inside you that said i want this to work? >> well, the choices i made really were rooted in my faith. i really did believe that what ted needed from me and what our marriage needed was for me to forgive him and that would open the door for healing in our marriage. and i don't think -- i don't think you were willingly wanting to leave the marriage. >> no. >> i think he really thought it was best for me and for our children. but i saw through that. i knew that he was going through a struggle but that his whole life spoke to him being so much more than the struggle he was going through. and i felt as though he was worth fighting for and everything that i cared about that was being challenged at the time was really worth fighting for. >> mike: we have a lot more to talk about. we will get to that after the break. more with ted and gayle haggard
right after this. remember, a little later, "american idol"'s catherine mcphee is here. she is going to be performing her latest hit. and i wonder how are the twins coming along with that painting? we'll be checking in with them as well. don't go away. [ applause ] host: could switching to geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance? host: is ed "too tall" jones too tall? host: could switching to geico 15% or more on car insurance? host: does a ten-pound bag of flour make a really big biscuit?
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grown man and me. and i thought that was all gone. i didn't think there was anything to it. but the counselor said that sense -- since i never processed that issue with anyone, that the residual effect of that was producing a by product. when they took care of managing and treating that trauma, the by product was i no longer had the compulsive thoughts and desire for the behaviors that i had been acting out on. so, in other words, i found congruenty because i was in a cycle of hating it, but then doing it again, and then hating it, and then doing it again. and so when they treated that trauma, then i stopped thinking and doing the things i was doing, and it provided relief for me and i was so grateful. >> mike: part of what you said you got into was illicit drugs. >> yeah. >> mike: what triggered that? i can understand -- >> it was the same thing. i had never been involved with
anything like that. i mean, i didn't smoke pot in high school. i never took drugs. i never went to the parties. i never did anything like that. once i got -- once the incongruity developed in my life, it was so painful to me, i started spiraling. it was just an addictive behavior. it was just like so many other addictive behavior that alcoholics deal with or other people deal with with different issues. it started becoming compulsive with me. i was so ashamed of it and so desperately wanted to manage it myself i kept it a secret. >> mike: people were angry with you. >> yes. >> mike: very angry. mostly people from your church and congregation and i guess people from around the country would look to you as evangelical leader saw you, again, as a role model for pastors. how many of those folks have reconciled with you? >> well, now, now, many are. gayle's book coming out is very helpful to people because they read through it. and it starts to make sense. when people would be angry or judgmental orbiter or rude or
cruel toward me, i felt like that was just. but when they are kind and compassionate and thoughtful toward me in the way that will be kind and helpful to us, i consider that a gift. and so i am very grateful to it. so i don't blame at all the people that have been through that process and continue to go through the process. >> mike: gayle, when you were here before, i was really taken by your sense of serenity. you were not angry. you didn't show bitterness. i was truly amazed by the countenance of your face when you recounted that, yes, you had been hurt. yes, other people had abandoned you, but you just kept going on. tell me advice for somebody out there who is hurting. because there are people watching us who are really, really hurting over something. it may not be exactly what you did. what advice would you give them? >> i don't want to minimize the hurting because it was very painful. i felt my heart was broken and i was losing everything that i
valued. and so it was a process for me. but i really did resort to the teachings of jesus. and i learned in that process that as i forgave ted, over and over and over again, and as i loved him again, my own heart healed. and so that's what i encourage people to do. and the scripture says that if we listen to what jesus is telling us, and put into practice the things he has told us to do, then it's as though our lives are built on a rock. i really believed that i feel as though that's what happened in me. it was a rough road. it did hurt. and it took a process. but i am so glad to be where i am today. i am so glad our marriage is where it is and our family is where they are. and that in the process our faith was deepened. >> mike: the story of the brokenness is not as remarkable as the story that you have been able to stay together and with many couples, particularly those in the public eye, who are abandoning their vows and
walking away, yours is a story of encouragement, not an easy story, not one that everyone else can maybe duplicate simply. but an encouragement to many people. i want to thank you very much. both of you for being here. ted to you, gayle, thank you. again, the book is called "why i stayed." gayle haggard. coming up, one of the youngest hartist in the music business katherine mcphee tells us how a teenager with low self-esteem became a confident performer who shinininin
it's her second album. it's called unbroken. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome katherine mcphee. great to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> mike: this cd is really personal to you. you wrote a lot of the songs. >> i did. i wrote about half the record. i went to nashville. i went all over the country to write with different people. i went to nashville to write with a bunch of writers. i really wanted this record to be more personal and tell stories of what i have been through, after coming off of a show like idol, sort of telling stories of just a young girl growing up in this business and, yes, it's just definitely a departure from the first record for me. >> mike: you come from entertainment family. you went through crises as a teenager before you hit it big. >> as kids do. >> mike: what was the key to your kind of getting that behind you and saying, you know what? i'm going to stand on my own two feet and i'm going to make a go of this as a career? >> i was very fortunate. i had a really supportive mom
and dad and i think all of us have adversity. for me it was food. i struggled with eating disorders and things like that. really was my mom who helped me get into a program and things like that, but it was also idol who kind of gave me that inspiration to finally say you know what? this is my problem. i don't want it to be an issue in my life. i want it to be behind me and i want to focus on things like singing in front of this beautiful microphone with these amazing artists. and that's really what helped me overcome it. it gave me inspiration, i think, for someone who is struggling with something. it's best to have a goal in mind because you can take the focus off of your issue and focus on the things that you love. and that's really a lot of those themes in my record are about kind of how do you -- how do you overcome? >> mike: the song is called say goodbye. let's hear it from katherine mcphee.
♪ alone -- tonight ♪ that way it won't hurt so much ♪ when we say goodbye ♪ that way it won't hurt so much ♪ when we say goodbye ♪ [ applause ] >> mike: katherine mcphee. beautiful. >> thank you. >> mike: thank you very, very much. [ applause ] >> mike: the album is called "unbroken." and you will be broken if you don't get it. it's a great piece of music. all right. twin artists terry and jerry lynn started working on different parts of the painting at the beginning of our show. but how is it going to come
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>> mike: they started with the theme at the beginning of the show but have been working independently on separate parts of the canvas. here to reveal what they came up with, twin artists terry and jerry linn. you have done this today. oh, my gosh. wow! okay. i have to ask you. which one of you painted the flag part of it. both of you work on that? >> we painted it together. i mean everything is a collaboration. we really don't look at any particular brush strokes as belonging to either one of us.
it as collaboration and that is what part of the painting is burks the american spirit and working together and that is what we embody, the whole idea of working together and that is what america is all about. >> mike: the thing that i always am stunned by is they have proportioned. they worked on this independently. some lucky viewer is going to own this painting and in ting so will help put instruments in the hands of st students across america. click on the link to the want to play fund and it will put you to the link where this painting will be up for auction. check out their website lynn twin.com. isn't this terrific? thank you guys for donating this to make music happen for a lot of students. from the fox sdi